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In our sins sexual and otherwise, God intervened! Thank you, and god bless each and Evey one of you. Jesus wanted to create a stampede of animals out of the temple, and theres no reason to conclude he used the whip for any other purpose than this. May God have mercy on these trespasses and may we all look to Gospel, with its truth and hope, and follow hard after it. If you dont know where get a commentary or a Bible thst has an index of where versus are. Get Directions . I do think Christians have adopted some culturally normative communication patterns; engaging in reflexive critique via social media and being far too easily offended, among them. I was raised Baptist, so I was taught that baptism (immersion by dunking) was a sign of your new faith in Christ, but it didnt actually save you. During this time when many in the church are embracing a worldly view on sexuality and being influenced more by the opinions of the culture than by the Word of God, those who have the Word of God as a priority are genuinely concerned about syncretism in the church with Hollywood values and agenda. Removing our measures; esp comparable measures to others If you dont agree with it, then say so-though your wrong to disagree with it- but dont say something isnt there when it is. But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner not even to eat with such a person. That is, as one man and one woman? Pics by Pauly Littrell) He gave one hard and fast litmus test: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself. No, Jesus didnt specifically say armed robbery is wrong, but it harms your neighbor. And in my opinion, if youre born gay, theres no greater sin than lying to yourself, pretending to be straight and failing your partner in marriage because you cannot TRULY be bonded to them. There was ample time before their opinions were made public to meet with mentors and leaders to understand that what they say may not be well received. Those old theologians were big on grace and were vehement defenders of the idea that we acquire salvation by Gods grace alone, not by works (I agree with this). And it has been confusing and a massive struggle to say the least. In like fashion, conservatives are trying to reason from Scripture why homosexual sex (as well as any sex outside of marriage, including LOOKING at another person with lust in your heart) is damnable sin but thanks be to God we are SAVED in CHRIST from it! He encouraged the person to stop sinningmaybe because of His love for people, knowing that sin hurts the personnot because Jesus was focused on condemning sin. Theres no mention of him using it to strike any animal, let alone human. NO sin is okay with God, from the way you lust in your mind about someone walking by you down the street or when you utter even the smallest curse against someone in your mind (Jesus said those crimes are adultery and murder, respectively). My mind was changed BECAUSE of my seriousness of the Word, not in spite of it. Let no man divide what God has put together., 7 The proud religious law-keepers said to Jesus, Then why did the Law of Moses allow a man to divorce his wife if he put it down in writing and gave it to her? 8 Jesus said to them, Because of your hard hearts Moses allowed you to divorce your wives. Where did Jesus say anything about polluting the environment, or armed robbery? Wait. "Meets at Jackies. The two will become one. 6 So they are no longer two but one. Sean Steckbeck: Your rhetoric is the stuff that drives my LGBT friends to suicide. I had never really heard of Hatmaker before and then I heard she inclusive of same sex relationships. PLEASE let conservative evangelicals continue to build walls and isolate themselves from the rest of society. Theres a point to this but its not happening the right way. Such a natural fit. The gospel is the gospel. I understand the point and process of biblical feedback. Yes, they need a public call out on it-otherwise it looks like the rest of the Christian world condones it and unfortunately there are a serious amount of people who are condoning it now and its just wrong just like condoning any other sin. hhhmmmthat kind of thinking doesnt stand up too good. I think we should go one layer deeper, where is the accountability of the Jens and the Robs? The old you have to be tolerant of my intolerance argument. In January of 2018, after coming under the . Sunday, May 28, 2022. Brian Austin Green praises Megan Fox & refutes other ex Vanessa's claims. They are for you to follow. According to a source that told the U.S . Increasingly, 140 characters on twitter are used to express quite nuanced positions. Jesus didnt talk about sexually abusing children. And theyre not always wrong. I must be very removed from online evangelical chatter. Biker. As someone mentioned earlier, child sexual abuse is not specifically mentioned in the Bible. If you work on the Sabbath, how do you justify that? I mean, its like youre willfully ignoring what Jesus is saying about marriage and what Genesis is saying about marriage. And if we encourage people to treat each other as brothers and sisters- simply look at any of the latest sitcoms or a series on Amazon or Netflix brothers and sisters divide, manipulate, lie, hurt and outwit each other. Brian Austin Green Amid Split From Megan Fox Celebrates Father's Day With His Sons. And if we as a group stand together and say this we are wrong? It was dying out in the early church, but still happened. ANY sex outside of that is morally wrong in Gods eyes. Thats clear. Im not suggesting religious communities shouldnt have core beliefs and clear tenets of faith. Do you keep the Sabbath holy? Slow down and show love to someone that may be hurting. Principles of Community | Reflections from Acts, LOCATION | The 04 Center2701 S Lamar Blvd, Austin, TX 78704, SERVICE | Sundays 10:30**Kids/Students Programming and Livestream available. Cracking a loud whip has always been the most effective means of controlling the movement of large groups of animals. But the actual Gospel is this: That even while were sinners, Christ died for us! Question posed to Brett, a follower of Jesus that is gay: How do you Biblically justify living a homosexual lifestyle?, Because this question was submitted anonymously, I dont know what Christian tradition youre coming from. This is blasphemy pure and simple, to say they felt told this. Thats why you lost another Millenial. It is one of my favorite stories. I hope your waitisnt suggesting Jesus once chased people with a whip. is that documented somewhere? Austin New Church. He established the church with his then-wife, Jennifer Lynn Hatmaker, in 2008. The couple split in August 2020 after several years of marriage. Jen Hatmaker and her husband, Brandon, pastor Austin New Church in Texas. Im not trying to bait you or flame you or troll you or whatever. It is neither your job nor your ability to call out someone elses sin. No, Jesus didnt specifically say its wrong to deliberately injure yourself, but you cant love your neighbor if you dont love yourself. I Corinthians 5:10-13 NKJV We must as Evangelicals now learn, in the 21st Century, to be at least as good and wise as Nicodemus, who was willing to go to Jesus in private. The gospel of Jesus is the core of our faith. Shes not a heretic. Re JH and accountability, its useful to look at the timeline of events that have led up to this. Restore Groups (Missional/Incarnational Communities) are clusters of friends throughout the city in which community, communion, and mission unfold as a way of life . 00:38. I dont know the answer, but Jesus was public in his condemnation plenty of times too. Seems to me if the person in question is public about their position then the response to that position may be public too. We are a broadly evangelical association of churches, united by a set of core doctrinal statements, I started out in Christian ministry in the 1980s. Jesus calls us to speak the Truth in LOVE (not in bloodthirsty fury). Repentance is a core gospel issue. I think most Christians would agree with that. I think most people on the other side do not want to intentionally be mean or attacking. If a writer takes a position which is opposite or in sharp contrast to the majority, that writer will encounter resistance. Unity in Him I give God thanks that I am now the VP of a non-profit organization, where each day is a place of healing, care, and love. Or are you making the point that its ok to be harsh because of Jesus example at the temple? Somewhat ironic, and perhaps some of the fellow congregants should have been listening more closely. Thanks evangelical Christianity. If you want to stay in the fold, youd best be subordinately silent. But from the beginning of the creation, God made them male and female. For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. Perhaps it is partly because you spend your Christian celebrity capital to gripe about online comments. Would you kick him out of your church because he doesnt believe that part of the Bible? Praise God David that He never left your side and He indeed had a better place for you. I Corinthians 5:11-13 NKJV I know a guy with a Phd from a very conservative seminary who loves Jesus with all his heart, but he doesnt believe the earth was created in six days. Yes the 2nd chapter of Genesis is poetry. Im not fucking with anyone, man. It is never correct to say any sin is okay. Or you dont believe its sin or are unsure, and you can practice theological justification that doesnt need the cross for this particular issue. I know that I was matching hyperbole with hyperbole. Be assured that you were persecuted for all the right reasons and God had control of the outcome! 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. When do people get to day sin is okay and not get reprimanded. Accept them or move toward something else, but do not post an article in which you compare nasty articles and comments written about you online to Good Friday. While we certainly have what we think is an awesome "church" gathering on Sunday, it might be more accurate to describe Austin New Church as a network of faith communities. Where is your compassion? If he listens to you, you have regained your brother. Start treating your sisters and brothers like sisters and brothers. Stop making excuses. But the start of this topic was about error in teaching. Sharing of various opinions leads to personal growth, if we allow it. Now we all sin, its truee, and we should be inclusive. His standard is unflinching. Hair style and food choice, andso many other abominations are overlooked. Be and example yourself, I think you should read the Bible: Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. Its good to know there are pious, uptightetc, uprightChristians who can boil everything down to a few self-informed talking points. After working with them through many meetings, lunches, and doing everything I could for over six months, they did exactly what you said in your article, they created their posses, spread rumors about me, my wife, and undermined the leadership of my entire staff. THE definition of Christian marriage is in the Bible, beginning in Genesis. I dont think there is a hard and fast rule on this. And maybe even a little doctrinaire? Im simply asking you to justify the parts of the Bible you either reinterpret or ignore altogether. I thank God I am not a reformed sinner. People like this peddle a watered down (at best) version of Gods word. It will open us up to the new: while religion continues to be a profoundly important vehicle for personal and community identity it also embraces a humility borne of the awareness that our knowledge is partial we see through a glass only darkly. With only a framework of religion, either The Right or The Left will show that broken Identity. focusing on OUR being : Lets focus on how the devil is using each and everyone of us in order to win good people over to his side. That seems nonsensical. Focus on immaterial things Yet, I am still saved. Sad. Maybe pull your head out of your ass and realize that God would rather see people happy than have a tenth of the population relegated to loneliness and eventual rebellion against God. Put me off the internet for awhile, Ill tell ya.). I am sure she is a nice lady but you can not say something that is not biblical and then reiterate it and then think that people who are biblical in what what they believe will stand with you. How bad does it have to get? What is being said here is that for someone to say that God says that homosexuality is not a sin is in absolute and total error! I hang out in mosques, Buddhist temples, and bars and show broken people the love of Jesus with no condemnation. This timeline is compelling and will sadly, i fear, be ignored. They have also founded the Austin New Church in Austin, Texas along with Legacy Collective, a community foundation aiming to find sustainable housing, prevent child trafficking and provide health care, among other options. But I dont wish on my worst enemy the pain that I, my family, Rob Bell, McLaren, or Jen Hatmaker have gone through. Science maybe? 9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sex sins, and marries another, is guilty of sex sins in marriage. In your pursuit of eternal life, have you sold all your possessions and given them to the poor and if not, how do you justify that? the spirit of the world is dark, indeed. Questions: Mike Frost , the author of this article, has attested to the fact that he believes homosexual practice is sin as well. And discribes a very good process. I do. If so, how will you justify that to him? When you read Romans 1 and 2 together intelligently as one argument, you see that his whole point is that the people who are judging others are the ones in sin. Im finding new eyes to see what it really means to follow the Messiah Jesus and it doesnt look like what I just experienced. But to God? 19:12). Can core beliefs and clear tenets of faith survive for very long in the same room as life and health and love? If you have the right to ask me hard questions, dont I have the right to ask some of you?, Beautiful, Mike. David I am so truly, deeply sorry to read your story. When, in your mind, must a leader be called out for heresy or false doctrine? CARE FOR ALL PEOPLE. All. Jesus condemns every expression of sex outside of marriage given what the word porneia means in both Biblical and non-Biblical sources. It was never worth the dramaplus, there would likely always be another mom pushing a little Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle around. Maybe in those days that was considered finding common ground.. This should surprise no one, least of all the writer. The 04 Center is a community space in the truest sense of the word. Its just so obvious that the creator God made man for man. Trust me, being a friend to Jesus is worth any sacrifice. Eternally wrong. One isnt exposing anything hidden. Any more specific position is an interpretation.. The few times PAUL talks about homosexuality, FYI, he either uses the terms that literally mean pedophilia OR they get lumped in with every other sexual act outside of marriage, including STRAIGHT SEX. IN-PERSON | 2701 S Lamar Blvd, Austin, TX 78704 ONLINE | Facebook or YouTube I'M NEW HERE. To learn more about the artists and discover more of their work:https://a ANC 12-23-22 Christmas Eve Eve Live Service, Ascension Day. Id rather be wrong in affirming my friends who are LGBT than have to attend their funerals because they killed themselves due to the hateful type of rhetoric youve put out here. Jesus was not harsh with sinners; His only harsh words were for wayward religious leaders. These couples rejoiced, and told everyone how the church didnt need a senior pastor, and how they were going to now lead the church for the future. both the shelter and the solitude of silence with the eloquence of Colm Bairad's gently captivating Irish . Mark 10:6-9 NKJV This is a sobering appeal and I pray that yes, this discourse does save life and redeem souls from death. Isnt it interesting, the things that indicate when we should keep away from a sinful brother or sister. But dont you see that disagreement doesnt immediately mean hate? I was super bummed out by most of the comments. Approach them directly; raise your concerns respectfully; where appropriate and reasonable, invite a third party into the discussion. I tend to stay out of the dialogue because it only matters to Christians, and the same people who []. Thanks for sharing Tara. Throughout the Bible sexual sin including homosexuality are condemned. I so agree with your point about how we handle disagreement in evangelicalism. By the way, Mathew 19:12 isnt referring to sexual orientation other than w/regards to the one reference about one having been deformed (for lack of a better word) at birth and therefore not able to complete his duties (so to say) in marriage but of course there were those in that time who were castrated and then the other reference meaning those who can lead a chaste life not because you sin if you decide to marry but those who are born with an inclination to be able to lead a chaste life and can be more centered in devoting ones life to Christ without the responsibilities of marriage. http://bible.com/114/mrk.10.6-9.nkjv. Shes a blogger. Step back and have some one on one time with God because.let he who has no sin cast the first stone and when people do this and run her down you are TURNING PEOPLE AWAY FROM GOD!!! Am I looking at the letters wrong? I had a woman tell me just today that she prayed and prayed and God did not take away her lesbianism. Yet, I find myself sobbing in my back yard as I listen, hoping no one hears . p.s. you are not God. So where does same-sex marriage fall on this? And if not, how can you claim to be a true believer? He ONLY allows it because, to quote Jesus, because of mankinds hardness of heart. Look at this in context: Have you not read that He Who made them in the first place made them man and woman? Online. If people are pointing to the Son who died for our sins that we deserved, so that we might be right before God (2 Cor 5:21), then there is no issue. And with all due respect, wouldnt your theology investigation be better invested on this very important matter of salvation (affecting 100% of humanity) instead of the issue of homosexuality (affecting 3-5% of humanity)? A public figure often needs to be called publicly. The views expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent the official views of Morling College or its affiliates and partners. When I asked Jen if she would private message me so I could respond privately about my concerns on same sex marriage, she never did. What a obnoxious way to be. Your email address will not be published. They practice infant baptism (sprinkling), though thats not clearly a thing we see demonstrated in the Bible. Or the only one you care about? Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Austin Miniatures Western Barn Wild West Cowboys Conte Compatible Marx TSSD at the best online prices at eBay! Furthermore, if your kids didnt believe that, would you be deeply disturbed or kick them out of the house? But I understand itI was one of those at one time, too. For the gossip its the same. It certainly wasnt with venom, as has been seen in Hatmakers case. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Austin Miniatures Western Hotel Saloon 2 story Wild West Cowboys Conte Marx TSSD at the best online prices at eBay! Whether it be drunkiness,adultery or homosexuality. Constricting.Simulating.Seekin The idea that only the things that Jesus says is sin is considered a sin. Marriage is defined by the song of creation in Genesis, bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh, man and woman. Writers love to do this and then proclaim, Look! However, I am 100% sure its not sin, so I feel like I am doing nothing wrong and am not presenting an affront to the gospel. As strongly as your convictions are explained here, please remember that many conservatives feel equally as strong regarding their heartfelt desire for biblical holiness. Even our own. So, what does healthy religion look like? We must do better. He just wasnt talking about that. We ought to love in truth and tell the truth in love. The Scriptures are clear that believers of the Christian faith often speak in tongues. But we cant condone sin. Seems so simple but we fail so often. church and others. And of COURSE he would use the same language they were using. The more I read the bible and the less I listen to others takes on it, the more I see how many people believe in manmade ideas. A Loving response: Youre right this issue is important to me, but attacking somebody is never okay, and is not Christ-like. Love. I listen, but I no longer debate their criticisms and small mindedness. We have to assume that means its a really big deal. An to be a Christ followed we have to die to our sin and live for Christ. Ive found that people who define things outside of the bigger community of the global Church, through the centuries, have too narrow opinions on Jesus and Pauls teachings. Christians normally reserve the word heresy for serious doctrinal error that strikes at core doctrines of the faith, doctrines considered foundational like Trinity etc. Thats a relief! You may think Im saying all this to be divisive or undermine Scripture. In the Nicene Creed, Christians declare our belief in the four key attributes of the church when we say, [We believe] in one, holy, catholic. 1:44. Whatever that sin is, we have to turn. The few times he ALSO talks about marriage, he often talks about the END of marriages and how marriage can be a distraction and how it would be better to end a marriage than continue one if the continuation of a marriage would cause someone to go against Gods plan. Sadly, this is what happens when religious communities become obsessed with building walls to exclude others. This is the right thing according to Matthew 18, a teaching emphasized in the intentional-community churches Ive been part of since reaching adulthood but not in the evangelical ones I grew up with. But what if your kid asks if he can kill the neighbors punk kid because God did it. Will you tell your child he cant do that? Thats the theological belief that God predestines some for heaven and some for hell. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. Its Farewell, Jen Hatmaker, Offender #11328. She already said 2. Im convinced that Paul was the first hippie and Jesus was a hardliner who called people to even higher standards than the Law of Moses. This is the Jesus I follow Have mercy, people. As I said before, EVERYONE deserves respect and for people to be treated bad by parents or anyone else is just wrong-that is not Christian either. The Body of Christ should do better than this! RELIGION ACTIONS of the individual, Instead of: By saying homosexual practice is not sin, it is a form of self-justification rather than Jesus-justification. At the very least she deserves to be treated with dignity and respect. Samantha's creative work has appeared in theatres, churches, and non-profit spaces. If she is teaching this heresy publicly, calling her out publicly is not only appropriate but necessary. I dont think anyone should be throwing their children out of their home-or berating them to the point of suicide. Austin New Church 141 viewsStreamed 3 days ago 1:15:21 ANC 01-22-2023 Sunday Live Service Austin New Church 192 views Streamed 10 days ago 1:06:19 ANC 01-15-2023 Sunday Live Service Austin New. Thats down to the individual I guess if they can handle it without wanting to be with that person romantically. Winter 2016-2017: Elders who hold to the traditional view of marriage resign their position at ANC. Burnt toast actually. Once the congregation saw what happened, the church shut down three weeks after my resignation. There wasnt any theological issues, no heresy. This is my view. (At the same time I was reading all the blog posts about it. What churches could learn from the Pub Choir phenomenon, Breaking Up the Family in the Pursuit of Uniformity, The Micro-Shift That Could Be a Gear Changer for Your Church, Women in Ministry Megalist - Women's Role in the Church Resources, Wise Words Wednesday: The Brutality of Unhealthy Religion | GAP COMMUNITY, Being chiefly concerned with things to avoid, Measuring quantities (of giving/serving/attending etc.). Love, Garry. Post-Bulletin, Austin MN. We cant offer the grace of Christ with a lie attached. If we are gonna be gatekeepers and decide who is in and who is out, why do we ignore so many other passages and only pay attention to the six verses that are considered the clober verses. View Event Website . ANC: Austin New Church, Hatmakers' church in Austin FMCUSA: the Free Methodist Church- USA, which ANC was affiliated with and financially sustained by since its inception JH: Jen Hatmaker, member of Austin New Church (ANC), occasional preacher, no official leadership position stated BH: Brandon Hatmaker, founding pastor and elder at ANC My skepticism about wide-spread spiritual discernment amongst Church leaders ended young for me. Octocer 25: JH interviewed by Jonathan Merritt which affirms her belief that gay marriage can be holy. State desire to remain in a tension on the issue, however, no opposing historical views are presented, and most if not all elders holding to traditional views have left ANC since the interview. Its kind and helpful. Do I wish God would lighten up on his sexual ethic? You are mischaracterizing the way orthodox believers view Jen. And how could the writer possibly individually approach all Christians with a message he feels is important? church and others. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. Jen already said how she came to her changed decision she isnt going to answer you one by one because 1. In response to Ben, below, it aint necessarily so. She and her husband planted Austin New Church in an economically and ethnically diverse . That said, theres absolutely no need to try a person in the court of public opinion as they suss out their own responsibilities, sexual or otherwise, before God. JM changes his Facebook information to relay that he is no longer employed by the Free Methodist Church. But it feels more like an abusive home than a healthy one, a point also made in this blog. Its tiring to read all these comments urging us to root out heresy (as if Jen Hatmaker is a heretic). My plea to people is, just remember youre talking about a human being. People with a homosexual struggle who have homosexual relations are not ANY more sinful than me when I lust after a woman who isnt my wife or you when you harbor hate in your heart toward a neighbor. Have you noticed hardly anyone at your church sings the congregational songs anymore? It was a very objectionable quote that seemed to edge true Christian sex toward BDSM and I felt I had to respond, so as per Matthew 18 I emailed him with my concerns. Their main issue was they wanted to change the by-laws about the processing of hiring staff members. Jesus didnt waver one millimeter from the Truths he spoke and nor should Christians who profess to follow Him. If they dont like it, they dump it. The same thing happened to Vicky Beeching, here in the U.K (although a lot of her ministry was in the states so she was battered from And Im not suggesting that religious leaders shouldnt debate and discuss their concerns when members (or fellow leaders) appear to contradict or challenge these beliefs. He also said marriage was between a man and a woman only. I think Christians should focus on being right about loving each other rather than who is correct about each others sins. He chased people out with a whip and turned over the tables of the money changers. In the meantime, lets pray for our sister currently in the crosshairs of unhealthy religion, knowing that at any time it could be you or me who draws the ire of her detractors. Uh-oh, it looks like its Jen Hatmakers turn. It was also the official position of ANC. Therefore put away from yourselves the evil person. This wealthy guy asks Jesus how he can gain eternal life. Anyone who writes a damning or imperious or condescending comment on their blog is only showing they have no such concern for the person Approach them directly; raise your concerns respectfully; where appropriate and reasonable, invite a third party into the discussion. I cant imagine how this approach would lead a person down the wrong path. Of course homosexuality us wrong-its everywhere in the Bible. Original post: The Church is judgmentally and systematically abusing people within the Church for issues that are not central to the Gospel this needs to stop! 20,804 Hoda Kotb's lengthy 'Today' show absence finally explained (In the latter, its called the Church Discipline passage & is about kicking people out. I am with Mike. We wont argue anyone into Kingdom of God. Since I dont know, Id ask a few questions in return It will deepen our sympathies: it unlocks our compassion because it sees the whole of humankind sharing in a common unfolding story. 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