R207 Thats my thought. cause of death still a mystery In addition to any mention of a second suspect, also omitted from Allen's probable cause affidavit was any detail of how Libby and Abby were killed . Stay away from places like this. Would a stranger to the town be aware of it? Not knowing the cause of death makes it worse because any terrible thing you can imagine could be true Did anyone watch the HSN special tonight? The trial, in which the prosecution sought the death penalty against the then 19-year-old Garnett, lasted from Monday through Saturday night, and was featured on the front page of the Daily Local News each day. Q. People latch onto any clue (even ones that fall apart if you give it a second thought) and hound the police with them, even ones that have been already addressed (HE HAS TO BE OLD! was pregnant (or feared to be) & she was killed to keep that from going forward & interfering with the groovy young life of whatever boy. Congratulations on this excellent venture what a great idea! Of course I may be wrong, but she comes off as shady to me. This fat guy wouldn't surprise anyone. I do hope the killer is not in or related to LE and being protected. Back up your claims please. If the perpetrator is indeed in law enforcement, theres incentive for a major cover up. [quote][R349] Not according to Chadwell's brother in the local news clip. The reason I ask is that the murderer may have been interrupted before he could sexually assault them? Hes a little bit too skinny to look like bridge guy but I can kind of see it. He doesnt have a beer gut, hulking arms, or short sausage legs. Crying into her potato salad over the stolen election. His father, Defields Lawrence, had died in 2001. R194 Ill admit, Ive never been so intrigued by true crime, but this one really got under my skin. At least information followed into or brought to the attention by the investigators. (R52)- I totally agree that he knows the area very well and lives there. I think he was probably there and/or watching, simply because he thought we were on the wrong path," Carter said when the second sketch was released. And its having one individual with the strength to say that was my brother, thats my dad, or thats my cousin, thats my neighbor, my co-worker. A second sketch was released at the press conference held on April 22, 2019. Sorry R91 posted it before I read through. The audio clip and still image of the suspect made it especially stick in my mind. The main suspect/killer is probably well-connected, like a local politician's son. This whole case has been weirdly handled by police for years. Its clearly not this guy. The girls were about 14? R14 During one of the press conferences a couple of years ago, the police stated that they had someone in mind and they were probably watching the press conference at that moment, they went onto say that the culprit would slip up and they had almost certainly told someone something about the murders and that person would come forward eventually. To me its his hunched back posture that ages him. Wasn't there a rather pervasive rumor a while back about a leaked search warrant for a very specific blade knife? Q. Girls or women who are pregnant with a baby that their boyfriend/husband/hookup doesn't want are targets for homicide. They do say it..a couple of them summarize it. Maybe the families meant that the girls going to the bridge that day was not due to being specifically catfished on that day. The girls' causes of death have never been disclosed and their killer has never been found. WebShe passed away on April 11, 2002 in Northport, which is located on Long Island in the state of New York, USA. R89- How long until the girls were found? This young guy, our cousin, who called himself her protector was the prime suspect. as he communicated with others. (R48) On reddit a women is claiming to have images of one little girl, deceased of course. I don't get armchair detectives who think they're Sherlock Holmes. He would also carry himself with confidence and know the lay of the land. Or something like that. The other girl just got caught in the cross hairs. This makes sense. The police did say they had a good idea of who had committed the crime and were waiting for him to slip up as it was just a matter of time. A grease fire is too good for him. Hello. When you start patching together all of the little snippets, it seems like something very freaky was done with bodies. The bulk of the pants almost show an outline of a gun to some. The original sketch could be a young but unfit/chubby man and to me there is a definite resemblance. In this case, we gave out audio and photo evidence from [Germans] video to help locate [the perpetrator]. go ahead, tease me, blow me out. I cant imagine being a parent and not knowing when your child is or what your childs last moments were like. I did read that the bodies were found on the opposite bank to where he forced them down the hill. Birthday: March 23, 1932 (70 years) All we have is what little knowledge we have learned from previous serial killers. We dont know.. R480 DNA would easily tell who the father of that baby was. Five months into the investigation, Indiana State Police released their first sketch and description of a suspect. Theyd have to have enough evidence to support a conviction if theyre going to charge him. Heres the pedos mug shot next to the mystery photo the girls took the day they were murdered. He said he remains hopeful there will soon come a break and justice for Abby and Libby. "To have enough presence of mind to activate the video system on her cell phone to record what we believe is criminal behavior about to occur, there is no doubt in our mind that she is a hero.". Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Do you consider this a cold case? The Websleuther who dug up the scanner traffic wrote: State Police out of Lafayette have an 8-county coverage area - including in and around Monticello. Years ago I went down the Beeks rabbit hole and crawled out concluding the Beeks have nothing to do with this. I stopped following this case. The bodies were discovered after a man's attention was drawn to the sight of 2 deer. r466, r446 said "this weirdo" reset his phone the day of the murders. Also in the thread is a link to a compilation of his TikTok video posts and his voice sounds like the voice of the Bridge Guy. Indiana State Police previously said that autopsies were carried out on the two girls but officials declined to disclose a cause or time of death for either girl, and refused to confirm whether DNA evidence was recovered from the scene. In the video he looks to me like he's walking with a limp. One potential key piece of evidence in the case was released by police within days of the killings, showing two grainy photos of a hat-wearing suspect walking on the abandoned railroad bridge the girls had visited. Their bodies were found nearby a day later. There was an excerpt of an interview with the Anthony shots guy. It has been four years. Im thinking not. No one - especially not someone who the government believes may be in any way involved - should be questioned without legal representation. The pouch/fanny pack that the Bridge Guy was wearing may have been a deer kill kit that contained a knife and other things. We believe you are hiding in plain sight, Carter said. [bold]He doesn't have to be from the area.[/bold]. WebDelphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in Hampstead, London, England, UK. Evidently the sheriff is going to answer submitted questions. [quote]Also.its such a small town. This case has literally haunted me. Several serial killers would return to the decomposing bodies of their victims. I hope the fear of being caught is with him every day. Libby fought back. any similarities to the girl he kidnapped and held hostage and one of the murdered girls? West End star Stephanie Lawrence died of natural causes after suffering fromliver disease, it has Not even close. Imagine knowing the killer is in the community, could be someone you speak to everyday and they are just walking about as if nothing happened. Does LE already know who it is? They have video, audio, and they should have dna of the killer, yet this case has been unsolved for nearly three years. (Other sources say that the girls were handcuffed to each other). And if more children were abused, all the more appalling, Also from reddit: YouTuber with screenshots of suspicious activity between Keegan and his dad. And then returned for whatever reason to murder. Investigators withhold evidence from the public all the time to help determine if someone they suspect is actually guilty. If a suspect shows they have this kind of info, it can also be used against them in a trial. The link below is for the big informative tattoo comparison thread. The murderer was or is definitely local or at least knew the trail. Durnell said he pressed Garnett, in a direct but composed manner, not threatening. Ill tell you. R97 I think the images and audio were from the cloud. In essence, the well has not gone dry.. I do believe he got them to cooperate and keep quite by holding a weapon on one girl and telling them one sound and she was dead. [The videos] help us know that people dont know [the true details], because the facts havent been released, Holeman said. How would this case be handled from the beginning had there not been any audio/video of the person of interest? R383, It was Libby's older sister, Kelsi, who agreed to it. This case is just so frustrating. Libby Germans older sister, Kelsi, praised the app. One of my priorities is always going out to the scene locations whether it be a homicide scene or an abduction location so I can get that three-dimensional spatial aspect. Within days of the killing, showing two grainy photos of a hat-wearing suspect walking on the abandoned railroad bridge the girls had visited, Liberty's older sister Kelsi German revealed in February 2020 that she is studying forensic science in the hope of one-day helping to solve who killed her sister, Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, was identified as the man behind the catfish account, Grandparents of victim Libby German, Becky Patty, left, and her husband Mike Patty, speak during a news conference, Brother of suspect in 2017 Delphi railtrack murders says he's 'absolutely' capable of killing two girls after 'kidnap', released by police within days of the killings, pleaded guilty to abducting, beating, and molesting a nine-year-old girl, Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). There is no reason, it should haven taken 5 years to solve this. These are things that I can see but we all get our own impressions. I know I could be proven wrong but thats my issue with the catfish theory. Delphi was 76 years old at the time of death. There's also differing tales on the recording. R476 There is a 29 yr old prosecutor (or maybe it was the investigator) that brought forth the fat pedo porn guy's case. "When we decided that, through the information we received, that we were going to release the second sketch I dont believe the individual knew we were going to do that. It's this Chadwell dude to a "T". Been lurking here for a while but am curious to ask this question. R150 I think theyve ruled that out. I really wonder if this case would have looked different if the families had been wealthy rather than dirt poor. I think that there were 2 guys and that Chadwell MIGHT be the one who says, "Down the hill, guys but he probably isn't Bridge Guy." We don't know if they were posed. but since i have heard about this, there is a lower leg wound that won't go away. I want to know more about what kind of DNA they have and if it could get the killer. 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It was made to look like a posed corpse, imo. Those amateur sleuths on Reddit are batshit crazy. The man in the photo wears a navy blue jacket and a distinctive hat. Is that what they call methed up bottom bitches in Alaska? It is, she said, a truly interesting case.. What evidence could they possibly have that is any different than other murders? You could also do it yourself at any point in time. These girls owed drug miney? What happened on that unusually warm February day remains a mystery to this day to everyone but Liberty German, Abigail Williams and the man who murdered them. I murdered her, Durnell testified. Their intuition , I believe. As we were leaving the room, he said, OK. Please clarify the two sketches, this has been a point of confusion since the second sketch was released. Who the hell would walk that bridge, much less allow kids to walk on it alone? The victim type is essential to their rape, kill fantasy. R428 That does NOT look like a young guy. In 1966, she moved to the United States where she began to appear in films and television, and settled there. If they have someone who is 90% a good candidate for killer, I just have him "suicide.". that's hard to believe r295 as they were said to be posed. The people who end up owing are typically dealers down the chain to the suppliers. There are rumors that they did collect touch DNA at the site but no one knows for sure. He decapitated one of his victims and posed get body so that it seemed as if she was looking at her body lying on the bed. Very interesting. Also, this trail has spotty cell tower reception. Lawrence, who is now 51 and lives in Wyndmoor, Montgomery County, said he had made approaches to see Garnett and talk about the case. There were no eyewitnesses to the crime and little forensic evidence for the jurors to consider. [quote] I wont link cuz DL doesnt like the Mail, We don't like when people start threads with a daily mail link. He is a serial killer. (There is a debate about whether it was Abby or Libby who was pregnant. Another key piece of the puzzle that investigators have released is that they believe the man who murdered Libby and Abby was either from Delphi or was familiar with Delphi either because he works there or has other connections. Agree R183. The tattoo could be an archetype in his head that is his "type." Lawrence, speaking to the Daily Local News recently about the case involving his sister and Garnett, said that Delphi had become literally a ghost, for him remembered, but only as a spectral presence. Trump supporters galore; and more than their share of criminal element. Articulate in the use of terms of art through practice. He said he offered to take her home and try to help, but that his stepfather overruled him. Despite having a video, audio and two sketches from potential witnesses in the area, investigators have yet to find the man responsible for their murders. To me, it sounds like he approached them, got their attention with Guys? and then showed a gun. R225 I was once a teen girl and yes you do walk just to walk sometimes. I am presuming the girl who had more physical trauma was Libby, since she was older and bigger than Abigail, and thus probably more likely to put up a fight or try to cause a scene. Was Valentines Day a trigger for the Delphi murders? This is why I question that persons credibility. Browsing Reddit and found this mugshot of the suspect from a year before the murders and he looks a lot like one sketch of the murderer. Save a ton of time and money on investigations, get criminals in jail or in electric chairs. If you haven't listened to The Prosecutors Podcast's four-episode series on this, I highly recommend it. I think it's the newest suspect entry on the Wikipedia page. It's like those paedophile hunters who try and entrap pervs who the cops may already be monitoring. Please let there be some DNA evidence. 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